Calgary then and now – Ogden Road

Two photos shot at almost the exact same location but some sixty five years apart, each showing a passing Calgary Transit vehicle. The location here is the community of Ogden, along Ogden Road to be exact, the background showing a railway bridge and in the older photo, bits from a refinery that today is no longer there. This is a BIGDoer.com then and now where we take an old image, try and duplicate as best we can (and usually do pretty good) and then write about it all.

The original photo comes in from a collector of streetcar and transit memorabilia, Harold Rowe, Moncton NB. Thanks a million for sharing it with us Harold! Readers should know, many of the “then” photos used on this website are sent in by people just like him. If you have an old picture showing a street scene similar to the one used here (need not be transit specific) and it’s your copyright (contact us if unsure) or in the public domain, why not send it our way. We’ll put it to good use here.

Calgary then and now – Ogden Road: two transit themed photos taken at many years apart at the same location. Written and photographed by Chris Doering and Connie Biggart (BIGDoer)

The old photo dates from 1950 and shows a Calgary Transit System streetcar heading north up the centre of the road, soon after passing under a train bridge, on its way to downtown, It had minutes earlier just left the southern terminus located at the CPR’s expansive Ogden Shops and is seen passing Imperial Oil’s huge Ogden refinery. Much of the area it would pass through is industrial so this sort of scene would be pretty typical for that run.

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The car seen, #42, dates from 1912 and was built by Preston Car and Coach in Ontario. This firm supplied a fair number of streetcars to Calgary in the 1910s. It would be retired the same year of the photo, concurrent with the complete closing of the streetcar system at that time. Not long after the first photo was captured, motor buses would take over the “Ogden” run.

The modern bus seen in our photo, #7775, dates from 2001 and is a New Flyer, Winnipeg Manitoba, model DLF40, by far the most common bus on the Calgary Transit roster. They have hundreds and hundreds of them built in the years 1993-2008. This model was quite popular with transit systems all over Canada and even the US. New Flyer is a huge producer of transit buses.

The now bus is on route “#24 Ogden” which follows much the same route as the streetcar in years past. Only it continues on further south today. The Ogden run dates back to 1912 and was put in place to shuttle employees back and forth to the CPR Shops and other industrial concerns in the area.

The Imperial Oil Refinery seen on the old photos, a massive sprawling complex, dated from the mid-1920s and closed some fifty years later. No doubt many employees there also arrived by streetcar. Note: Ogden for a time was its own town but was sparsely populated. In 1950 the community was out in the sticks. Most workers at the various industries there commuted in from Calgary.

Today the land the refinery once sat upon is devoid of any buildings and is too contaminated to do much with. In the 1970s one neighbourhood, Lynnview Ridge, was built atop part of the refinery lands only to be abandoned a decade and half ago, the houses demolished and people moved out amid fears of health problems from all that nasty stuff in the soil.

The railway bridge seen in back belongs to the CNR. Built around a century ago, by predecessor firm Canadian Northern Railway, the line it supports once went all the way to downtown Calgary. The track has since been cut back to an industrial park a couple clicks west of the bridge and trains here are sporadic at best. And short.

In the old photo, one could have fully expect to see numerous passing freights and passenger runs crossing the span, no doubt many of them steam powered. Business on the line was brisk back then. No so today. The CNR used to have a spur into the Imperial Oil plant. Not seen but just to the left of the shooting position, is the CPR’s busy east/west mainline. Lots of train stuff in the area.

The only visual element connecting the two eras is that same train bridge. Railway infrastructure almost always seems sort of timeless and the structure looks today much as it did. It almost appears the alignment of the road differs somewhat from them to now.

Calgary Transit, originally the Calgary Electric Railway, late the Calgary Municipal Railway, later still the Calgary Transit System dates back to 1909. Beside the streetcars back when, and modern diesel buses today, the company used to have a network of trolley buses. They serve a population of over a million, using over a thousand vehicles of various types (road and rail), covering about a hundred and fifty different routes. It’s a big system, although compared to many other cities, is rather underutilized overall (Calgary is rather car-centric).

One last reminder, if you have an old picture showing a street scene (and not just in Calgary either), send it our way so we can use it in one of our trademark then and now series. Reach out to us via our contact page.

More BIGDoer.com then and nows, transit themed of course…
Calgary Transit then and now – MacDonald Bridge.
Calgary Transit then and now – #7 South Calgary run.
Edmonton Transit then and now – 115th Ave.

If you wish more information on what you’ve seen here, by all means contact us!

Date: April, 2016.
Location: Calgary, AB.
Article references: City of Calgary Transit, Book: Stampede City Streetcars, Canadian Public Transit Discussion Board Calgary Roster wiki page.
All shots were taken from public property.

Calgary Transit Ogden

The same location in Calgary, some sixty plus years apart.

60 responses

  1. Geoff Hill says:

    Awesome ‘then and now’ style shot, love it!

  2. Barry Davies says:

    Imperial oil sign under bridge!

  3. Steven Thiessen says:

    I rode in that street car. It now runs at Heritage Park.

  4. John Lewin says:

    Well Imperial Oil had a tank farm and processing plant right there at the base to what’s now Lynwood. CP Rails yards were there forever. Thanks for the glimpse down memory lane.

  5. Naomi Kikoak says:

    Great capture!

  6. Ginny Goodman says:

    Thanks for this little “blast from the past”- like all of the others, chock full of info with great photos! I love all of your photos and posts!! Keep it up!!! ♥️

  7. Connie Biggart says:

    Fantastic then and now!

  8. Ray Courtman says:

    The Ogden streetcar line was primarily built to ferry workers to and from the CPR Ogden shops which employed hundreds to repair and rebuild rolling stock and locomotives. It was a huge complex.

    • Was and still is, even with some of the buildings having been demolished and replaced with by an office structure. Indeed, much of the streetcar traffic on that line was destined for that huge operation.

  9. Michael LeBaron says:

    Great photos and the comparison, I just wonder, what became of the brick building?

    • Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. That building was part of the refinery complex just off frame to the right, which was closed down and demolished in the ’70s.

  10. Ray Courtman says:

    My grandparents’ home was about a block away from the Ogden Streetcar loop. I remember them clattering around the loop and heading back into the city.

  11. Jo Tennant says:

    I had no idea the street car ran that far – thanks for the information 🙂

  12. Brian Gourdinne says:

    Hopefully you can do another photo in a few years that is able to show the new LRT line in the background behind the CN Rail bridge.

  13. Jeffrey Neels says:

    Love the comparison photos ! Well, I love all you photos but these are cool !

    • Thanks! These are so much fun to shoot but in many ways a huge challenge to do. It’s hard to find suitable old photos for one.

  14. Jake Kennedy says:

    Hello,

    First off I would like to say I do in fact enjoy your photos. However, I find it quite ignorant the way you handle people who repost your work with no intention of turning a profit. I’m not sure if it’s the credit you desire, or have some delusion that you’re missing out on royalties. The way the internet works these days people constantly post and repost content. Some content has been recycled so many times it’s impossible to find the creator. If I were you, instead of acting childish about the situation, I would simply comment and say “thank you for admiring my work, I would however appreciate acknowledging me as the photographer.
    I send this message because I do not appreciate the comments you posted towards my mother. Now instead of being immature and posting rude comments, or reporting you. I’ve sent you this message to advise you of your inconsideration.

    • Jake, can you you tell us what in the world you’re talking about? Your mother? Huh? Royalties? We make no money on what we do. Help, I’m lost!

  15. Chris Walker says:

    Chris and Connie, you guys rock. Don’t let these haters get you down. Been following your adventures for years now and enjoy every moment of it. Don’t let the hate that Ogden group is spewing be a bother. You’ve got an army of friends.

    • Thanks a million for the show of support. It means a lot. We have lots of friends. I’ll be happy when this poop-storm is behind us. I’m tired of being told we’re being greedy, all because we asked for what’s due us. What they did is like stealing from a library…but there’s not need to because they give it away. That’s what happened here.

  16. maxine wtsma says:

    Been following this on Facebook. Kudos to you for your handling the barrage of insults in a professional manner. Moral high ground, dude. So, someone shared a photo you asked them to post credit and this started it all? You ask for what’s rightfully deserved and that’s their response? Heaven help us, humanity has hit a new low.

    • The world is an angry place. But we have to respond in a calm manner or get sucked down to that level. All we wanted was credit, nothing more. They said we were POed cause we missed out on advertising revenue. What advertising revenue? We allow the stuff to be shared, get this, for free. Sorry ranting here. All the ugly messages have left the team on edge.

  17. Connie Biggart says:

    Went over to that site. Such atrocious spelling and grammar.

    • I know, shaking my head. Sort of reads like a Trailer Park Boys script. This is not the Ogden I know – have lots of good friends and associates who call it home, who are all stand up types. There’s a part of me that’s convinced we’re being punk’d!

  18. Jessica T says:

    I’m a member of that group and it’s a shame what they’re saying. The photos here are wonderful and the writings that accompany them are interesting and definitely well thought out. Some passion here.

    • Thanks. It must be a crazy world when us, a humble, non-controversial and easy going society (some might say boring too) gets slammed like that. Getting message here at BIGDoer.com now, and on our Facebook Page too, and two calls at the office (I knew publishing them would bite us), from that group, some of them pretty darn ugly. On the plus side, we hear lots of of good things about what we do. Still it’s hard to drown out the negative. Drop by again soon, comment when you can, and share your most favourte posts when the notion strikes you.

  19. Monica Rogers says:

    That is some hurtful stuff they’re saying in that forum. Twisted people. Your many thousands of fans stand behind you and know you are about the nicest people we’ve ever met.

    • I don’t get it. It’s troubling. How did a request to give credit turn into a hate fest? Thanks for the support. I sometimes forget, we’re not alone.

  20. Tiffany McCreary says:

    The Calgary Ogden history Facebook page is trashing your group right now.

    • I heard the rumblings and am completely puzzled. Trashing us…our historic society…REALLY? Over this little article? I thought it’s a pretty good piece. Must be something in the air in Ogden today.

      • Tiffany McCreary says:

        They said you stopped them from sharing this post on their page. Pretty angry about it.

        • Got myself up to speed here. Now I know what you’re speaking about. Here’s the skinny…simply, asked someone who shared this post to give credit, nothing nasty or harsh, just a quick request, which they took exception to. And now it’s all out a war. Well, they’re at war, and all their buds seemingly have jumped on the bandwagon too, perhaps without knowing what went on, torches and pitchforks at the ready as they pound on the door. We’re sitting back and would be chuckling over the whole thing if it was not a bit creepy.

          We openly encourage people to share, please do it, we’ll even show you how, just give appropriate credit. Not much to ask really. How the hell they turned this into the Spanish Inquisition, I don’t know. A simple request from a non-profit historic society, made into a mountain. Are we politicians? I read the posts at that page. Nasty stuff at a personal level. Ouch. The internet is a crazy place at times…

  21. Da says:

    My cousins lived on Lynview Ridge so I’m familiar with the area. There used to be a huge, abandoned pipe factory to the right (and slightly behind) where the pics were taken. It was still standing in the early 90’s but they finally tire it down. I think a Brick warehouse is there now. I’m trying to find a picture but no luck so far.

  22. Richard S. says:

    I remember when I moved to the Calgary region in 1990, there was a high steel trestle owned by CN near the location at Dartmouth Road and 26 Avenue close to the roundabout. Do you have any photos of that bridge?

  23. Linda LaRose Christy says:

    Love pics like this!

  24. Julian Lengauer says:

    (via Facebook)
    Beautiful touch with the CT bus!

  25. Coinoath Sarsfield says:

    I commend you on the effort needed to source these locations. I’m impressed!

  26. Dawn West says:

    If I had to pick a time and place, I’d rather be in the streetcar photo.

  27. Dave Bierwirth says:

    Times have changed in my old back yard.

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