Why in the world did they do that? It’s great the old building was given a new lease on life, but wasn’t consideration given to saving the sign? An iconic part of Edmonton’s Jasper Avenue since forever it’s now partially obscured by new construction. That new addition…well…the aesthetics are not everyone’s cup of tea, but we can accept it. But for the sign…they’re going to burn in hell! Love or hate what they’ve done, the old Lodge Hotel seen in this post plays a big part in another fun and interesting T&N.
Even after all these years the building retains its character and that’s in spite of the best efforts of those behind its redevelopment. Is it us or are the two architectural styles at odds? It feel wrong for some reason, and that’s keeping an open mind. Was heavy drinking involved? Contempt for the Lodge? Won’t anyone think of the children? We need answers! Oops, forgot to turn off soapbox mode.
Our old photo comes courtesy of the Gerry Squier collection at the Motor Bus Society and for this, we’re in their debt. Gerry, who’s gone now, shot bus photos all over North America for decades and the group has allowed us to use any for then and now fodder. We’ve posted one already (scroll down for link) and have more planed, so stay tuned. We see many fishbowls in your future.
Edmonton Transit: Lodge Hotel. Along Jasper Avenue with Chris Doering and Connie Biggart (BIGDoer/Synd)
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Then: We’re at the east end of downtown Edmonton, the old part of town, and looking west. It’s not said when the old photo was captured, but a little detective work would put it at about mid-1970s or just beyond. Explanation in 3…2…1…
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The three prominent buildings in back (former AGT Tower, the tallest, former McCauley Plaza its shorter twin, plus MacDonald Estates Apartments in front) we’re all standing by 1973. Any identifiable cars all seem to fit the era, so nothing out of place there. Wagons with fake wood panelling were all the rage back then, but tacky ruled that decade. The car displays a yellow license plate, incidentally, which first came into use in 1975. We’re narrowing things down.
The American Motors logo displayed on the billboard, back left, and advertising a car dealership is of the era. AMC…remember them? Oh yeah, Gremlins were a thing of beauty! A check of old phone books (our go-to resource lately) shows the “instant cash” place in business before 1978. We’re closing in.
There’s a theatre seen, back left (the Dreamland), that we know was torn down by 1979, but that’s a moot point as we also know this bus was retired a year or two prior. Adding it all together has us pretty confident we’re dating the photo reasonably well.
Wait a second…nine bucks per week for a room? The Lodge was a high-class joint!
Random interesting stuff to follow. The distinctive roof of the historic Hotel MacDonald can be seen poking out (both photos) on the left and it’s one of the classier digs in town. You know what what means? We’ll never be a guest. In behind the Dreamland, a neon marquee of an old café is seen. We picture one of those Hollywood style diners with a grizzled old cook sweating away in a wife-beater, hunched over the grill and swatting flies between puffs on his cigar.
The partially obscured sign for the Alberta Hotel shows just above the bus. A new building occupies the site today but they saved the front wall to use as a façade along with that conical roof feature (blocked by new construction from our position). When the old photo was captured, the once upscale Alberta was a dive, but that became the fate of many old inner-city hotels of the era. The Lodge, incidentally, at the time was more a rooming house than a hotel and had functioned as such for decades.
The bus dates from 1948 but probably worn out and that close to retirement when Gerry captured it. Most trolleybuses in the ETS fleet in the 1970s were from that era and working on borrowed time. A fleet of replacements would come along in the early 1980s to seal their fate, but these old timers soldiered on to the bitter end.
Edmonton shut down the overhead in 2009, leaving only Vancouver in Canada with a trolleybus network.
Number 182 came from Canadian Car and Foundry of Thunder Bay Ontario and built to US “Brill” designs. Edmonton owned around a hundred of these buses and they proved to be long lasting. Not everyone appreciated the ugly maze of wires overhead, but they were efficient (if used on trunk routes), durable and generally simpler than their fossil-fueled counterparts. Many major Canadian centres operated trolleybuses during the 1940s-1970s period, with a few cities hanging on longer (like Edmonton).
The trolley is along the #5 route which after passing will head to the exhibition grounds in the city’s northeast quadrant. This route still exists today and follows many of the same streets as its predecessor. In hindsight, we should have waited for a modern #5 to pass.
Now:All those new buildings, cold, soulless edifices of concrete, steel and glass demonstrate how downtown Edmonton has grown. The gentrification monster has found the Lodge Hotel, but this at least assured vestiges of the old building would remain. Otherwise, who’s to say what would have happened and we heard it may have been threatened for a time.
The structure dates back to 1911 and of Edwardian style popular during that era. It was originally called the Pendennis Hotel and will again carry that name (minus the hotel part) and offer mixed-use space. In the artist rendering on the developer’s website a new (smaller) sign shows on the east facing wall where the Lodge Hotel one is located. This suggests it will be painted over, and could explain why they didn’t pay it much mind. It’s going bye bye anyway…I guess…so who cares? Anyone able to confirm this? The new sign will honour an older one once located in the same spot that advertised the Pendennis Hotel.
It’s not clear when the Lodge Hotel closed but the 1990s is suggested. For a time it sat empty and about twenty years ago received a Municipal Historic Resource designation. Then nothing happened for a long, long time.
The 1912 Brown Block next door looks the same from photo to photo. Everything photographic? Everything? It’s a nice looking structure and reflects an optimistic time in the city’s history, with the future all bright and shiny.
The old Gibson Block behind our shooting position has nice restored signage on the west wall. This and all the other old buildings mentioned in this post were to be detailed subjects for our camera but construction kind of killed that. Too much was blocked from view and so we’ll return another time.
That nondescript block on the right is little changed and appeared empty on our visit.
The Lodge/Pendennis is in the oldest section of downtown Edmonton and by the 1960s this neighbourhood was really showing its age. It got real sketchy for a time, but being reborn present day and so the circle is complete. Jasper Avenue has always been a major east-west thoroughfare bisecting Edmonton’s core.
The bus captured by us is #4496, one of the more common transit models out there (a Flyer D40LF, made in Winnipeg Manitoba) with many on the ETS roster. This ones dates back to 2005 and seen along the #2 route that travels between West Edmonton Mall in the west and Commonwealth Stadium in the east.
There’s an app for that! You can track the locations of ETS buses in real time and we checked to see if #4496 was running at the time of posting, and there it is! It’s on the Mill Woods to downtown run as we type this.
This Then & Now turned out pretty well, although a environment with tall buildings is not an easy one to shoot in this style. Broad and distant scenes are easy, but ones close in and with lots of straight architectural lines make it challenging to match things up. Errors in alignment get magnified several fold as you get closer to a subject, so usually we shy away from deep-urban subjects.
We have to guess the focal length used in the original photo and while it can be roughly determined using field of view, it’s still often a roll of the dice. To cover our bases, we’ll shoot at several lengths and in most cases one will match up well. It comes to this: for every good Then & Now there’s countless rejects that in-camera looked to line up, but on closer examination too far off to use.
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Date of Adventure: May, 2021. Location: Edmonton, AB. Article references and thanks: Motor Bus Society, City of Edmonton, PendennisBuilding.com, Canadian Public Transit Discussion Board Wiki, TrolleyBuses.net and AGT for all those old phone books.
Those Eagles were interesting vehicles and I understand quite capable. There was one at last year’s Beater Challenge! I don’t know about them covering the sign – seems to suggests an indifference. It appears they might be painting over it anyway, so I guess it doesn’t matter. An artist rendering shows a different, smaller sign here, reminiscent of one that appeared on this wall when the hotel was quite new.
Beer Parlour Project Friday🍺: The Thorsby Hotel, built in 1929 & a photo by the manager's 7 years old daughter. More below 👇
Agreema politely asked if she could shoot a few photos & we obliged. A dark environment like this is very unforgiving & the camera she used quite temperamental, so she did an amazing job. We're out of work as photographers! Great food at this place, BTW!
Beer Parlour Project Friday🍺: The Tofield Hotel, built in 1912 & patron Lana, shot on Rob's vintage view camera. More below 👇
She's a sweetie & met her late husband at the hotel. The building from the alley side hasn't changed much since being built but the front brickwork is now covered by siding.
Crossley slides (unrestored), an unnamed fellow snacking on Sun-Maid Raisins - mountains of BC - 1950s. More below 👇
The distinctive red box is instantly recognizable! The location is listed as the Whitewater Valley & we think it's in the Sandon area close to Retallack. Perhaps some of our friends out that way can confirm. Sandon B.C., would Hal know? Crossley frequented Sandon so the location makes sense. Note the (mine?) road cutting across the slope in back. The slide is dated 1955 in the catalogue but 1956 on the frame.
Shout out to: Jason Sailer. _______
Exploring history with Chris & Connie from Off the Beaten Path. Thanks, Chris.
An old section of Highway #6 (BC) in the 1970s & 2021 - it's the second most shared post in our entire history! More below 👇
The original photo shows the road about the time it was decommissioned. This was always a troublesome section & so it got replaced by a new route further up the hill. While it hasn’t seen a car in eons, it remains overall in reasonable shape, save for some rockfall in places like this. These came down about ten years ago.
Happy Holidays from Off the Beaten Path w' Chris & Connie. Thanks for your continued support & encouragement. More 👇
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CPKC's Holiday Train from a few nights ago. Rather than fight the crowds to see it, we wanted something a little more intimate. A bit of hike, but we brought mulled wine to help us keep warm while waiting. It's not a great shot & originally we had no intent to share it here, but what the heck.
Trainspotting is like fishing. It's not about the catch but rather getting out. If a train comes by, great, but if not, we had each other & a chance to get away from the day's problems. That's a BIG win in our books...even if we did freeze our bottoms off. _______
Out exploring with Chris & Connie from Off the Beaten Path. Thanks, Chris.
My first car was a 1986 AMC Eagle wagon, it was a nice car, though my inexperience driving wrecked it in the end.
Additionally, that is nice how that new building extended itself past the old ghost sign on the old hotel so it wouldn’t be hidden/lost. A nice touch
Those Eagles were interesting vehicles and I understand quite capable. There was one at last year’s Beater Challenge! I don’t know about them covering the sign – seems to suggests an indifference. It appears they might be painting over it anyway, so I guess it doesn’t matter. An artist rendering shows a different, smaller sign here, reminiscent of one that appeared on this wall when the hotel was quite new.